the thing you hear about chuck hagel when you call around, chuck hagel didn't do lunch, literally. he didn't go to the weekly lunches. >> and you served with him. do you think that there's -- usually, there's always deference to former senators. >> there's not that much deference. but i don't think it will be a cakewalk. they know what they're doing and i think they make a tremendous bet. but i also think that, you know, the thinks that they're bringing up, he's addressed them. he's a veteran. people know that he is not going to be the one that one that makes -- you know, he's not going a rogue defense secretary. he's going to be advising the president. >> do you think there would be a filibuster, though? do you think republicans would filibuster? or do you think that maybe that will be a bridge that republicans who don't vote for him but vote to move him? >> i'm going to echo senator schumer and say it's too soon. my bet would be against the filibuster and confirmation. >> meaning, he'll basically say, democrats are going to confirm. but republicans are not going to prevent the vo